oil level RENAULT SCENIC 2007 J84 / 2.G Automatic Transmission Siemens TA2005 Workshop Manual

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DF105
PRESENT
OR
STOREDDECLUTCHING WHEN STATIONARY FUNCTION
DEF: Signal outside upper limit
NOTESConditions for applying the fault finding procedure to stored faults:
The fault is declared present following a delay of 5 seconds, with the engine running,
the vehicle stationary with a gear engaged and a difference of more than 384 rpm
between the engine speed and the turbine speed.
Special notes:
Use bornier Elé. 1681 for all operations on the computer connectors.
Use the Mégane II or Scénic II wiring diagram Technical Note.
Check the oil level in the engine and gearbox.
Top up if necessary (see MR 364 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Filling-levels (for Mégane II) and
MR 370 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Draining-Filling (for Scénic II)).
Check the engine speed:
–Possible engine speed instability
–Deal with the faults displayed on the diagnostic tool for the injection computer.
Deal with the other faults first.
Check the turbine speed:
–Possible inconsistency with the turbine speed,
–Possible turbine sensor fault,
–Possible solenoid valve oil pressure fault.
Check the oil pressure with the engine switched off using PR003 Oil pressure: if the pressure is greater than
0.2 bars, replace the pressure sensor.
–Warm engine with gearbox oil temperature between 65 and 90˚C.
–Measure the line pressure under the 3 following conditions:
IMPORTANT
The vehicle must be stationary: handbrake on and brake pedal depressed, no accessories operating
(e.g.: air conditioning)
1Engine speed idling:
Shift the gear lever to R, N and D, the pressure reading must be greater than 2.5 bar.
2Engine speed at 1200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 4 bar.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 5.5 bar.
3Engine speed at 2200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 11 bar.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 11 bar.
AFTER REPAIRDeal with any other faults. Clear the fault memory.
Switch off the ignition and carry out a road test followed by a test with the diagnostic
tool.
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DF113
PRESENT
OR
STOREDCONVERTER LOCK-UP SERVO CONTROL
NOTESConditions for applying the fault finding procedure to stored faults:
The fault appears after running command AC024 Sequential actuator control.
If the following faults are present or stored, deal with them first:
–DF003 Analogue sensor supply.
–DF005 Oil pressure sensor circuit.
–DF016 Lock-up solenoid valve circuit.
–DF177 Automatic transmission overheating.
–DF226 Automatic transmission internal pressure.
–DF244 Turbine speed sensor signal
Use the Mégane II or Scénic II wiring diagram Technical Note.
Check the quality and level of the gearbox oil (see MR 364 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Filling - levels
(for Mégane II) and MR 370 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Oil change (for Scenic II)).
Check that the gearbox is not leaking oil.
Carry out the converter setting point test.
To locate the cap position, consult MR 364, Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Line pressure
measurement (for Mégane II) and MR 370, Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Line pressure
measurement (for Scénic II).
Check the oil pressure with the engine switched off using PR003 Oil pressure: if the pressure is greater than
0.2 bars, replace the pressure sensor.
Warm engine with gearbox oil temperature between 65 and 90˚C.
Measure the line pressure under the 3 following conditions:
IMPORTANT
The vehicle must be stationary: handbrake on and brake pedal depressed, no accessories operating
(e.g.: air conditioning)
1engine speed idling:
Shift the gear lever to R, N and D, the pressure reading must be greater than 2.5 bar.
2engine speed at 1200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 4 bar.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 5.5 bar.
3engine speed at 2200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 11 bar.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 11 bar.
AFTER REPAIRDeal with any other faults. Clear the fault memory.
Switch off the ignition and carry out a road test followed by a test with the diagnostic
tool.
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DF131
PRESENT
OR
STOREDSLIPPAGE
1.DEF: Permanent low level
NOTESDeal with all other faults first.
Conditions for applying the fault finding procedure to stored faults:
Safe mode is triggered after a fault, not by the driver.
In particular, check that there are no faults on:
–the turbine speed sensor, DF244 Turbine speed sensor signal.
–the vehicle speed signal, DF230 Invalid vehicle speed multiplex signal.
Check that PR003 “Oil pressure” equals 21 bar. (forced setpoint)
Possible defective components:
Slave cylinder (brakes, clutch) or computer.
Then check cleanliness and condition of the gearbox oil.
If the fault is still present, contact Techline.
AFTER REPAIRDeal with any other faults. Clear the fault memory.
Switch off the ignition and carry out a road test followed by a test with the diagnostic
tool.
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DF177
PRESENT
OR
STOREDAUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION OVERHEATING
NOTESIf the following faults are present or stored, deal with them first:
–DF003 Analogue sensor supply.
–DF005 Oil pressure sensor circuit.
–DF016 Lock-up solenoid valve circuit.
–DF017 Exchanger flow solenoid valve circuit.
–DF023 Gearbox oil temperature sensor circuit.
–DF036 Pressure modulating solenoid valve circuit.
–DF131 Slipping.
–DF226 Automatic transmission internal pressure.
–DF237 Invalid coolant temperature signal.
Conditions for applying the fault finding procedure to stored faults:
The fault is declared present after a road test.
Check gearbox oil grade and level.
If an operation is necessary (see MR 364 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Filling - levels
(for Mégane II) and MR 370 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Oil change (for Scenic II)).
Check that the water-oil exchanger is not blocked.
Measure the resistance of component 754 between the following connections:
●connection code 5BC,
●connection code 5BB.
If the connection or connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical
wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring. Otherwise replace the wiring.
The resistance should be between:
2660 Ω < R < 2360 Ω at 20˚C and 327 Ω < R < 290 Ω at 80˚C.
If the fault is still present, contact the Techline.
AFTER REPAIRDeal with any other faults. Clear the fault memory.
Switch off the ignition and carry out a road test followed by a test with the diagnostic
tool.
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DF226
PRESENT
OR
STOREDAUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION INTERNAL PRESSURE
NOTESIf the following faults are present or stored, deal with them first:
–DF003 Sensor feeds.
–DF005 Oil pressure sensor circuit.
–DF023 Gearbox oil temperature sensor circuit.
–DF036 Pressure modulating solenoid valve circuit.
–DF244 Turbine speed sensor signal
Conditions for applying the fault finding procedure to stored faults:
The fault is declared present after a road test.
Check the gearbox oil grade and level (see MR 364 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Filling - levels
(for Mégane II) and MR 370 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Oil change (for Scénic II)).
Check that the gearbox is not leaking oil
To locate the cap position, consult MR 364, Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Line pressure
measurement (for Mégane II) and MR 370, Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Line pressure
measurement (for Scénic II)).
Check the oil pressure with the engine switched off using PR003 Oil pressure: if the pressure is greater than
0.2 bars, replace the pressure sensor.
●Warm engine with gearbox oil temperature between 65 and 90˚C.
●Measure the line pressure under the 3 following conditions:
IMPORTANT
The vehicle must be stationary: handbrake on and brake pedal depressed, no accessories operating (e.g.:
air conditioning)
1engine speed idling:
Shift the gear lever to R, N and D, the pressure reading must be greater than 2.5 bar.
2engine speed at 1200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 4 bar.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 5.5 bar.
3engine speed at 2200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 11 bar.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 11 bar.
AFTER REPAIRDeal with any other faults. Clear the fault memory.
Switch off the ignition and carry out a road test followed by a test with the diagnostic
tool.
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Start with the ALP1 cycle
ALP3 Automatic transmission operating faults
NOTESOnly refer to Customer complaints after carrying out a complete fault finding
procedure with the diagnostic tool and the conformity check.
If the engine races when shifting from 1/2 when cold (automatic transmission oil
temperature less than 15˚C), replace the pressure modulating solenoid valve
(EVM).
Use the diagnostic tool to check the
consistency between the display and the gear
lever positions (ignition on and engine
stopped).Adjust the control settings following the
instructions provided (see MR 370, Mechanical,
23 A, Automatic Transmission, Automatic
transmission control unit (for Mégane II and
Scénic II)).
Are they consistent?
Check the oil level and the condition of the oil
(colour, odour, etc.).Replace the automatic transmission (see MR 364,
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Removal-Refitting (for Mégane II) and MR 370,
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Removal-Refitting (for Scénic II)). Does the condition of the oil suggest there
is an internal fault in the automatic
transmission?
With the engine stopped, check the line
pressure information provided by the pressure
sensor (PR003 Oil pressure).Replace the pressure sensor (see MR 364,
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Pressure sensor (for Mégane II) and MR 370,
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Pressure sensor (for Scénic II)).
Is the value higher than 0.2 bar?
NO
YES
YES
NO
YES
NO
AFTER REPAIRCarry out a road test followed by a complete check with the diagnostic tool.
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ALP3
CONTINUED 1
Check the oil level.
Check the oil pressure using PR003 Oil pressure:
Warm engine with gearbox oil temperature between 65 and 90˚C.
Measure the line pressure under the 3 following conditions:
IMPORTANT
The vehicle must be stationary: handbrake on and brake pedal depressed, no accessories operating
(e.g.: air conditioning)
1engine speed idling:
Shift the gear lever to R, N and D, the pressure reading must be greater than 2.5 bars.
2engine speed at 1200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 4 bars.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 5.5 bars.
3engine speed at 2200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 11 bars.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 11 bars.
Do the recorded values correspond to the specified values?
Shift the gear lever into position D and monitor
PR007 Turbine speed when accelerating.Replace the pressure modulating solenoid valve
and the oil. Repeat the check after replacement.
If the fault is still present, replace the hydraulic
distributor and all the solenoid valves (see MR 364
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Hydraulic distributor (for Mégane II) and MR 370
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Hydraulic distributor (for Scénic II)).
Does the turbine speed change?

Replace the automatic transmission (see MR 364, Mechanical, 23A,
Automatic transmission, Removal-Refitting (for Mégane II) and MR
370, Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Removal-Refitting
(for Scénic II)).
A
YESNO
NOYES
B
AFTER REPAIRCarry out a road test followed by a complete check with the diagnostic tool.

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ALP4 Automatic transmission malfunctioning on gear changing
NOTESOnly refer to Customer complaints after carrying out a complete fault finding
procedure with the diagnostic tool and the conformity check.
Automatic transmission malfunctions may be noted during gear changing without any fault being stored in the
computer.
These malfunctions may be linked to:
–connection faults (insulation: creates a fault, resistance) in the sequence solenoid valve control wiring
harnesses (EVS1 to EVS6).
Check the tightness and condition of the clips on all the solenoid valve control wiring connections from the
computer to each solenoid valve.
Use command AC024 Sequential actuators control to find any faults.
–Hydraulic distributor faults (hydraulic slide valve seizing, strainer/distributor seal) preventing the sequence
solenoid valves from working properly.
Check the oil's condition (colour, burnt or not) its level and pressure: increasing with engine/turbine speed.
–Loss of pressure when changing gear (clutch brakes/cylinder leaks)
Read the values of the following parameters (gear lever in position D or R: vehicle stationary and handbrake
applied) on the CLIP tool:
–PR003 Oil pressure,
–PR006 Engine speed,
–PR007 Turbine speed,
–PR138 Reference pressure,
–PR008 Computer feed voltage.
These parameters are associated with automatic transmission operation.
If one of the values is incorrect, note the fault it causes.
Replace the faulty part if necessary and carry out a check.
If the fault is still present, contact Techline.
AFTER REPAIRCarry out a road test followed by a complete check with the diagnostic tool.
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ALP7 Oil present under vehicle
NOTESOnly refer to Customer complaints after carrying out a complete fault finding
procedure with the diagnostic tool and the conformity check.
Check the colour of the oil under the vehicle to determine the source of the leak (automatic transmission fluid is
red).
Clean the engine and gearbox.
Check the oil levels in the engine and gearbox.
Top up if necessary (see MR 364 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Filling - levels (for Mégane II)
and MR 370 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Oil change (for Scénic II)).
If there is no gearbox leak, look for a leak in the engine compartment.
If the leak is from the gearbox:
–Locate the source of the leak and carry out the necessary repairs.
–Replace any faulty parts.
–Check the oil level.
AFTER REPAIRCarry out a road test followed by a complete check with the diagnostic tool.
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